Skip to content
New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

Consider update proposal to leverage TURTLEDOVE style request separation #9

Open
michaelkleber opened this issue Jul 21, 2020 · 4 comments
Labels
enhancement New feature or request

Comments

@michaelkleber
Copy link

One key property of the TURTLEDOVE proposal is that there is no way for a publisher to learn what Interest Group one of their visitors belongs to. As a result, if a person used to be part of an interest group and then leaves the group, they won't see group-targeted ads any more. There's no way, for example, that a publisher first-party profile of the user could "remember" old interest groups.

That's why the TURTLEDOVE explainer says "People who wish to sever their association with the interest group can do so, and can expect to stop seeing ads targeting the group."

In this proposal, the user's CohortId is available directly to the publisher site, which means ads targeting it might persist. So this benefit, which you've copied from TURTLEDOVE, doesn't apply to your proposal.

As I mentioned in today's Web-Adv BG call, this is why perhaps your proposal could instead be about a way to build TURTLEDOVE-style Interest Groups (which would have the benefit you claimed!), rather than FLoC-style cohorts (which don't).

@brodrigu
Copy link
Member

I think this is a fair point. It's certainly not the intention that previous cohortIDs would be stored or useful, but that wouldn't stop a poorly designed or malicious system from doing so.

I'll update this text for now, and will consider the value and mechanics of using a TURTLEDOVE style request separation.

@brodrigu brodrigu added the enhancement New feature or request label Jul 21, 2020
@brodrigu brodrigu changed the title Clarification of benefit "People who wish to sever their association with any interest group with which they are associated can do so and can expect to stop seeing ads targeting the group." Consider update proposal to leverage TURTLEDOVE style request separation Jul 21, 2020
@brodrigu
Copy link
Member

@michaelkleber for your consideration #12

@michaelkleber
Copy link
Author

michaelkleber commented Jul 28, 2020

Yup, definitely helps. And using SPARROW-style serving, rather than TURTLEDOVE, would address the "costs" in your Tradeoffs section, right?

@brodrigu
Copy link
Member

Yep, though I suspect if we had a trusted "Gatekeeper" we might prefer to leverage that trusted relationship instead of building a trustless API.

Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment
Labels
enhancement New feature or request
Projects
None yet
Development

No branches or pull requests

2 participants