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Proposal: expire datacap not used by allocators #6

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willscott opened this issue May 8, 2024 · 22 comments
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Proposal: expire datacap not used by allocators #6

willscott opened this issue May 8, 2024 · 22 comments
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Proposal Modifications to improve the operating of Allocator processes.

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@willscott
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If an allocator doesn't take any action on chain in a month after datacap is allocated to them by the fil+ program, it seems maybe worthwhile to revoke that allowance and ask them to re-apply in the rolling applications once their system is ready to distribute datacap.

It seems like there's risk associated with having large outstanding / fragmented allowances.

@Kevin-FF-USA Kevin-FF-USA added the Proposal Modifications to improve the operating of Allocator processes. label May 14, 2024
@Kevin-FF-USA Kevin-FF-USA self-assigned this May 14, 2024
@willscott
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I haven't heard objections here -is it to go ahead with this?

@galen-mcandrew
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We should discuss in the next governance call. I think a month is too short, and we have heard from teams that require longer to build and test pathways. This is also more likely the case for more of the automated and market-based pathways.

I think we could amend this proposal. What about:

  • For allocators that have not made an initial allocation (beyond a testing amount) in 6 weeks
  • AND have not replied to comms requests with a reasonable updated timeline and explanation of inactivity
  • OR allocators with no allocations across 8 weeks (gap in activity)

@willscott
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those proposed limits sound fine to me

@Kevin-FF-USA
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Kevin-FF-USA commented Jun 6, 2024

Will add to the upcoming #48 and leave a comment in each Application.

Key Points

  • Needed: Provide an updated timeline for onboarding pathway and client outreach"
  • Needed: Response or action by June 24

Here are the Allocators who would be impacted.
Please see discussion #59 for additional metrics

Web3mine | f03019928
Nebula Block | f03019861
TopBlocks | f03019931
QC Data Center | f03014608
FBG Capital | f03019934
ZhongYiGuoLian | f03019935
XnMatrix | f03019938
SUPERB GRACE LIMITED | f03018026
New Web Group | f03015081
Lighthouse.Storage | f03019939
IPFSCN | f03019942
ANTPOOL | f03019944
ZetaCube Inc | f03018530
Power Meta Corp | f03019948
Titan Network | f03018977
Flamenco team | f03019950

//edit
Updated per input from Organization for activity
Twinquasar - CIDgravity | f03019296
Twinquasar - CIDgravity | f03019298

This was referenced Jun 10, 2024
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s0nik42 commented Jun 11, 2024

Hi!
We're currently developing our Pathways
We have a whole stack to develop.
We released our new product offers that include Datacap and automatic datacap allocation : last week : https://www.cidgravity.com/pricing

This is covering our 3 pathways.

Julien

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We are also working to clean up old allocations, from previous election cycles. This will include removing DataCap from the previous LDN multisigs, as well as the previous 'direct client request pathways'.

Flagging this, as it has been discussed a few times in various governance calls. These notaries go back to the third round of elections in some cases!

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luhong123/QC-Data-center#1
We are working on a series of tests, including spark retrieval access, so please give us some time!

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ipfsAllen commented Jun 17, 2024

Hello, I'm sorry for the late reply.
I started DC allocation, and I will do allocation according to the trench schedule.
https://github.com/ipfsAllen/Fil-DC-Allocator-Allen/issues
And I am going to participate in the Allocator Call.

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woshidama323 commented Jun 19, 2024

Hello , This is Harry from TopBlocks, Sorry for missing so important key info
We are working on it and will update recently
Also will take part in the next allocator call

But May i ask you for help

  1. My ledger address comes from LedgerLive, but it seems that it different from allocator website
    Ledger nano s
    Want to change address from "f13scefkwue5cpivykug4qod4tkcmuqf4bgu7yzsy" to f1ez4nfx4lbqmddefk3gpqisf2xcfr3g6qm4qes7i
    Also update 1069

  2. Transfer Topblocks repo from filplus-bookkeeping to TopBlocks
    It could be convenient for us to handle new tools in the future

Also json file 1069.json need to be updated

Thanks

@TitanNet
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Hello,

We would like to retain the Allocator.

We are currently undergoing a comprehensive product upgrade for our hot storage product, Titan Storage, to ensure it offers a better user experience and enhanced service capabilities. We will commence allocation shortly.

Demo: Titan Storage Demo
Code Repository: GitHub - Titan Storage SDK

@newwebgroup
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Hello, this is Newwebgroup. We apologize for the omission of such important and critical information.

We plan to start distributing DC soon, and will proceed with the allocation in a reasonable and compliant manner according to the plan.

@Kevin-FF-USA
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Hello, this is Newwebgroup. We apologize for the omission of such important and critical information.

We plan to start distributing DC soon, and will proceed with the allocation in a reasonable and compliant manner according to the plan.

Hi @newwebgroup
Thanks for posting and confirming the organization wishes to proceed as an Allocator. To make sure we have a action plan, can you please provide

  1. A timeline for distributions (more specific than "soon"). Ideally, showing activity within the coming two weeks
  2. Any client outreach you have started or have scoped for work.

Warmly,
-Kevin

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ipfscn commented Jun 25, 2024

Hello, here is ipfscn. Thank you for the reminder. We have already started the allocation.

https://github.com/filplus-bookkeeping/IPFSCN/issues

@stcloudlisa
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We have preliminary agreements with some partner clients. But now there is a configuration issue that prevents us from carrying out our work. Please check this issue, filecoin-project/Allocator-Registry#79 . Once this issue is resolved, we should be able to proceed with our allocation work quickly.

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We have preliminary agreements with some partner clients. But now there is a configuration issue that prevents us from carrying out our work. Please check this issue, filecoin-project/Allocator-Registry#79 . Once this issue is resolved, we should be able to proceed with our allocation work quickly.

Hi @stcloudlisa
Which organization is this for? Shenzhen SpaceTime Cloud Technology Co.; Ltd., STCloud?

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We have preliminary agreements with some partner clients. But now there is a configuration issue that prevents us from carrying out our work. Please check this issue, filecoin-project/Allocator-Registry#79 . Once this issue is resolved, we should be able to proceed with our allocation work quickly.

Hi @stcloudlisa Which organization is this for? Shenzhen SpaceTime Cloud Technology Co.; Ltd., STCloud?

The application we originally applied for was here.
filecoin-project/notary-governance#1038.
Our organization's name is this Shenzhen SpaceTime Cloud Technology Co., Ltd.
The name of this organization may also need to be revised

@Kevin-FF-USA
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We have preliminary agreements with some partner clients. But now there is a configuration issue that prevents us from carrying out our work. Please check this issue, filecoin-project/Allocator-Registry#79 . Once this issue is resolved, we should be able to proceed with our allocation work quickly.

Hi @stcloudlisa Which organization is this for? Shenzhen SpaceTime Cloud Technology Co.; Ltd., STCloud?

The application we originally applied for was here. filecoin-project/notary-governance#1038. Our organization's name is this Shenzhen SpaceTime Cloud Technology Co., Ltd. The name of this organization may also need to be revised

Carrying forward a DM into this thread (for transparency)
Organization reached out, due to a bookkeeping issue will not be sunset for DataCap - but will be taking action to start distributions within the next 30 days

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Remaining Organizations

These organizations have yet to provide a timeline or taken any action for DataCap distribution. If not response by end of day, will have the DataCap sunset and need to reapply.

Messages sent to each Application, Governance calls for 28May, 11June, 25June, as well as SLACK.

Web3mine | f03019928
Nebula Block | f03019861
FBG Capital | f03019934
ZhongYiGuoLian | f03019935
XnMatrix | f03019938
SUPERB GRACE LIMITED | f03018026
Power Meta Corp | f03019948
Flamenco team | f03019950

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Hi @Kevin-FF-USA ! Thanks for reaching out. We wish to remain active. We are in the process of onboarding several PiBs of capacity and have allocated much of the available capacity to storage clients already. We expect to begin using the datacap allocated to this our allocator pathway in the next month.

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Final list of inactive Allocators who are being sunset

Nebula Block | f03019861
FBG Capital | f03019934
ZhongYiGuoLian | f03019935
XnMatrix | f03019938
SUPERB GRACE LIMITED | f03018026
Power Meta Corp | f03019948
Flamenco team | f03019950

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