implement projects #3337
Comments
@rohitpaulk argues in IRC that we should still offer tipping a user. |
|
The most attractive use-case for Gratipay personally is tipping individuals:
Ideally, one would end covering most (or all) their expenses via these gifts. I don't know what the way forward should be, and I'm scared Gratipay may not survive this. This change in direction feels so hasty and desperate. I don't know how you handle this much pressure @whit537. I hope you are doing fine. |
|
Heh, thanks @tshepang. :-) I'm actually doing better now than in a long time.
This wouldn't be accomplished by giving to |
|
It would be up to the founder of a project to decide when to move a project to an organization account instead of their personal account. Consider, toom that an individual could set up a project on Gratipay such as this: Name: Research Projects |
|
Would that adequately address the use-case of "genius grants" for especially productive individuals? |
|
@whit537 I spoke to one of our prominent developers and his use case does not match this new direction. While he is a prominent dev so we can easily say you are tipping his project. He in turn channels his tips to a non-developer who is on the platform. |
|
@whit537 If I know who |
Sorry, I was trying to pick a likely example. |
|
@whit537 with a name like Research Projects, you might as well leave things the way they are now. That is, would others be allowed to join such a project? How is this different to a Team? |
This would include PayPal and not just bank accounts? |
|
@whit537 yeah, I'm aware. My point is I'm a fan of one person's overall work, instead of specific projects. |
|
Hmmm. The way this is going we better introduce one time payments. |
|
@chrisdev Regarding your nephew, I would expect us to grandparent in existing receivers. For everyone currently receiving money on Gratipay, we would create a single project, something like this: Name: My Life So make sure you sign up all your family members soon! :-) Regarding the developer passing through their tips, that would still be possible for someone new on Gratipay after this lands. Having to attach a withdrawal route would mildly discourage this, but wouldn't render it strictly impossible. We want lots of viable businesses on Gratipay! |
Yes, whatever withdrawal routes we support.
A "Research Projects" project would approximate one of the founding use-cases of Gratipay. However, it would be explicit, and would exist alongside other use-cases, such as growing small projects into viable open businesses that support many, many people. |
Yeah, maybe. |
For open-source projects, where is the line between one person's work and the work of many people on a project? |
For the "Research Projects" example I was thinking no: others wouldn't be allowed to join such a Project. Really it'd be up to the owner to decide. My brother-in-law runs a research lab where he employs a dozen people. On that parallel, maybe someone wants to use Gratipay to fund an open-source software R&D lab. Maybe someone else prefers to work alone on ideas, and then spin out a new Project utilizing the Teams feature as an idea gains traction.
Teams becomes a Payroll feature (#2569) that attaches to a Project. |
|
Users optionally have Projects. |
|
Many people distinguish themselves in multiple projects. Now, I don't want to go look for every project this person has contributed to. I just want person to continue contributing, or I just want to keep saying thanks ($), "I'm still using that one tool you wrote years ago". That other people deserve reward for their work on the same projects that this person happens to contribute to is a different matter. Teams was built to handle that one problem, I think. |
"I'm still using that one tool" sounds like a great case for tipping a project. ;-) That said, maybe everyone who joins Gratipay gets an automatic first project created for them: Name: Tip Jar They would still have to attach a withdrawal route, etc., in order to "activate" their tip jar. |
|
sounds forced, but I guess you know better... you've had more time to think about this |
|
+1 for individuals from https://gratipay.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/1980:
|
|
Closing in favor of #3399. |
Reticketing from gratipay/inside.gratipay.com#180. We're going to phase out no-strings-attached individual-to-individual giving in favor of no-strings-attached voluntary payments to worthwhile projects.
First, a Gratipay user must have a certain trust level:
Gratipay users above this trust level can create projects. Projects have these attributes:
To start with, "type of product or service" will be hard-constrained to this list:
Tips are attached to a project, no longer to a user.
The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: