infra: funding: Come up with a way to fund infra from community

[johnandersen777]

• https://docs.tea.xyz/tea-white-paper/white-paper#staking-to-secure-the-software-supply-chain
• https://twitter.com/pdxjohnny/status/1446114123561848836
• infra: revolt: Project chat #1241

[programmer290399]

• I started using brave rewards on brave browser recently, and at-least get around half a dollar/month in BAT, which can be transferred to other Ethereum based cryptos I guess.

• They show privacy respecting ads that are unobtrusive in nature and you need not to open them in order to get rewards. A simple notification containing an ad is displayed at a frequency that you can set.

• The point I am trying to make is if community members can start using brave and enable brave rewards, at the end of the month auto contribute the crypto amount to a creator account for DFFML, we can either withdraw that amount into EUR, GBP or USD and use that to pay for infrastructure.

• Even if we don't withdraw into a bank and directly use some provider like BitLaunch or birhost (as shared by @r00tkillah on twitter) I think we'd be good to go.

• The only issue here might be with Uphold, because I have had issues with it and that is the wallet you need to use when using brave rewards, but I guess withdrawing is more of an issue here in India and might not be in other countries.

[johnandersen777]

I'm a fan of the brave stuff but have heard creators had issues transferring tokens. Have you heard of any issues with that? Might have been from a while ago and fixed now. I'm a huge proponent of this approach.

Even if we don't withdraw into a bank and directly use some provider like BitLaunch or birhost (as shared by @r00tkillah on twitter) I think we'd be good to go.

One of those hosting providers is probably the way to go right now. We should probably avoid connecting real credit cards, etc. to any of the infra since that would be tied to a single person. Long term our options include setting up a 501c3 non-profit, or something like that. https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/private-foundations/life-cycle-of-a-private-foundation-starting-outm https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/exemption-requirements-501c3-organizations . Or maybe joining something like the Linux Foundation.

For those who want to allow their personal infrastructure to be accessible (for example a home server). We will be able to allow them to expose functionality easily to the community should they wish (via the orchestrator and other stuff being worked on with dataflows). I'm going to be writing a lot of tutorials on all that soon.

It's important that we keep funding in mind long term with the project. Google graciously provides funds for GSoC. One of our goals could be to figure out how we could fund a non-GSoC intern, in the event we don't get as many GSoC slots as we'd hoped. (Or maybe someone's work during the winter).

Eventually it would be great if we could flush out how some kind of bounty system could work (https://discuss.python.org/t/how-do-we-want-to-manage-additions-removals-to-the-stdlib/10681/40) for contributors tackling issues.

[programmer290399]

• Regarding the LF stuff , I guess it may be a great idea too as it runs 3 sessions a year, that'd help us get a consistent flow of contributions, it is essentially GSoC as a service ....

• I am not sure about the withdrawal, I haven't been able to buy anything from it yet because there are some address incompatibilities between Uphold and some other websites, we need to flush that out before we start using brave rewards, but until then at least you can try brave and see if it feels good enough for you to replace your current browser. Others can also give it a try I guess .......

• Using personal infrastructure might cause problems because its not easy to keep home-servers up, due to power, connectivity and endurance issues. But still what kind of configuration we'd need for a home server anyways ?

[programmer290399]

More on Brave's BAT

This website has a ton of great tutorials which might be helpful for us in one or more ways. Do visit : https://landchad.net

Big thanks to @LukeSmithxyz 👍🏽

[programmer290399]

Also I guess we can use the GitHub's sponsor button on our repository if that is fine, this page has some good documentation related to it: https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/managing-your-repositorys-settings-and-features/customizing-your-repository/displaying-a-sponsor-button-in-your-repository

[mhash1m]

https://twitter.com/pdxjohnny/status/1446114123561848836

I think https://www.racknerd.com also lets you pay through crypto, not sure about the automation. But, it is a proven service and is cheaper I think compared to linode, digital ocean and vultr (The ones supported by bithost.io).

Also, there are free limited vps services as well, usually for up to a year and of course with limited resources, eg. AWS Free Tier

I'm actually using it to run a node for a project. The project is somewhat along the lines of BAT(in terms of earning) as @programmer290399 mentioned above, would love to share in the upcoming meeting.

[johnandersen777]

found by @mhash1m: https://presearch.org/results?q=dffml

get around 3 tokens a day, could set up a node