Discussion: RN NavigationExperimental API bugs/breaking changes, future direction of the project #557
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I did notice the "switching tab re-mounts" problem return last week. Hopefully I'll get some time this week to try and figure out what happened. Maybe I think maintaining a fork would be a lot of work. It doesn't make much sense to me to preserve and continue to use stuff they are intentionally changing upstream. I guess the way I see it is since its clearly marked experimental, whoever wants to use it (and by association this repo), should understand its closely tied to upstream changes, and can easily break. I think the best we could do is let people use working combinations. So if they want to use RN 0.24 they should use it in combination with |
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@joenoon Thanks for the feedback. The problem that everybody wants to use latest stable React Native (because it fixes a lot of issues usually) and also wants to use latest RNRF (because it fixes a lot of issues as well). Problems begin when such combination have bugs, like we have with RN 0.24 => a lot of issues are created recently and we cannot do anything with it. If we would use master for latest changes, it would be difficult to improve older forks then (like current most stable 3.22). So I'm still thinking to have most stable version as master and some 'experimental' versions (like 3.24) as forks which should be merged to master when all issues will be fixed. |
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@aksonov Why not copy the files into the project until the API becomes stable? |
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I really don't see any alternative right now. Moving NavigationExperimental into separate repo is much more difficult rather than just changing the require calls. We've to set up the Facebook infra for the separate repo, which is not simple. |
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Could you submit PR? Maybe some shell script which will change require calls automatically... |
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There are news for react-native 0.25 support?? |
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In my opinion, the issues with ExperimentalNavigation will eventually get resolved. While some can't wait for that, I could. So, I'm hoping that we can get it all smoothed out again by 0.25-0.26. Since they are working on 2 week releases, I'm hoping that we're really only looking at a month at most of waiting for issues to be resolved. I like RNRF and I'd love to see it move forward with RN. While ExperimentalNavigation was a mess of bugs, I'd guess that once it gets smoothed out, it won't happen like that again for awhile. Anyhow, my two bits! |
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FWIW I've been using this combination successfully: I'll probably start looking at 0.25 this week. |
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There isn't bug with rn 0.24.1? |
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@sarovin there are bugs with |
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Just found this project today. Honestly, I think the fact that we can build native mobile apps cross-platform is pretty awesome in and of itself. I'd be happy to remain a RN version or so behind if it means I can use someone else's great module to ease app development, and routing/navigation is enough of an RN pain point that I'm happy to be a bit more conservative with upgrades if it means someone does the hard work of building a good router for me. It might be enough to simply update the README.md with the latest working, stable combinations. If that means this only works with RN 0.23, then that's just a price people pay to have a decent routing solution. It seems a bit unrealistic for folks to expect you to keep up with RN when it is a rapidly-evolving project and you presumably have your own work and projects to maintain a living. That said, what are the most recent known working combinations? I'm attempting to integrate this and am wondering if anything works with 0.24 or if I need to wait for 0.25. Unfortunately I've already updated my project and don't want to roll it back, but in the future I can hold off on upgrades if it means working with good third-party modules. Thanks. |
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@ndarilek you can try this combination with 0.24: #557 (comment) I've seen comments where others have run into an issue with 'replace' route types, but my app doesn't use that functionality so I haven't run into it myself. I'm also using a custom NavBar, so its possible there are other issues I'm unaware of. |
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@joenoon The title didn't display in tabbar sub-scenes, and buttons didn't display correctly either for rn0.24 + rnrf#3.24 in iOS. Do you have a solution for this? |
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@spaceoi I dont use the default NavBar, but I did stumble onto the title issue by accident. If I remember correctly it was related to this change: fe5da32 @philipshurpik do you remember the reason for that change? Just glancing it looks like |
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@joenoon Actually I think this is a different bug. The _renderTitle method runs several times and the last run will show as the title in the NavBar. For example the click of 'Switch to tab1' shows runs 3 times _renderTitle method: tab1_1, launch and tabbar, and the title displays tabbar's title, which is undefined, instead of tab1_1's title, which is the correct result 'tab1_1'. |
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react-native has 0.26 has now a rc released since 5 days ago. |
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Fixes didn't make it into 0.26. Holding out for 0.26.1. |
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@olliepop what fixes are you referring to? |
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@joenoon 0.26 is out, should we merge wip-0.26 to master? |
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0.27, 0.28-rc all they have breaking changes. Maybe it is really worth checking to copy NavigationExperimental sources into this component, so it will work with any RN version? And merge them from time to time to improve things... |
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changed the title
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I don't think it is good idea to have separate copy of NavigationExperimental. It can become very different from original source very soon. imho it is better to wait API stabilization. The presence of the version matrix and supporting 0.28 will be enough. |
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With NavigationRootContainer gone going forward it looks like all we are left with that depend on NavigationExperimental are 1.) NavigationAnimatedView and 2.) NavigationCard (and their dependencies). I haven't looked deeply at what it will take to get rid of NavigationRootContainer from RNRF, but it seems like there is less and less surface area available to be impacted by NavigationExperimental upstream changes on each release. Copying sources on NavigationExperimental:
Two very different project directions:
I think if 2 is sounding good, it might be because its just the opposite of the current approach. We can try it, but I suspect we'll discover new/different issues and pains with that approach. |
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@joenoon, Maybe ask React Native team to have a separate repo for NavigationExperimental ? |
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This has come up a lot in the past. I think you'll find this discussion useful - facebook/react-native#6184 |
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I've experienced similar issues in my own project. 🤕 To answer your question:
I believe it should solve your problems with React Native versions, and no, But given the current state of this project it might be worth a try, and as I also mentioned in ericvicenti/navigation-rfc#81, here's how you'd do it. As for your proposed alternative approach: I've been making some exciting progress on this front, react-router-native. [shameless plug] And for those of you who are interested, here's the pitch:
Feedback is greatly appreciated. 😅 Also see jmurzy/react-router-native#7 🍺 |
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@jmurzy Looks like your wrote your router once, but selling it anywhere :) Okey, if seriously, here is my feedback - but please don't start to discuss it here (you may use your topic jmurzy/react-router-native#7 for that, you could quote my feedback there if you want), because it is really offtopic here and i don't know why i didn't remove your post (probably because first half is quite useful, thanks! :) I don't think that url-based navigation works well for native, but probably it is very subjective. For example for me it is much easier to use It is very easy to add deep linking to this component as described here #704, but looks like our community doesn't need it much. URL is boilerplate itself and it is popular because it is needed for web. URL is form of serialization of an user request and RNRF just uses original user request because it is not necessary to serialize/deserialize data to/from URL for native apps. However you could do deep linking with RNRF easily if needed. |
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Okey, 3.30.0 version doesn't depend from 0.26 anymore (i've forked NavigationExperimental API to separate package). We will update fork (react-native-experimental-navigation) when new changes within Experimental Navigation API will be made (we could clone even latest master fixes now!). Also we will update this component to work with latest version API but it is not so critical now (now component still depends from 0.26 API, but not from React Native 0.26) Feedback is welcome. |
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When ExperimentalNavigation API will be stabilized AND our Router will be changed to use it, we will switch from fork to RN again. I'm glad that ExperimentalNavigation 0.26 doesn't depend from core, so fork was not difficult to do (mostly just replace import paths), i'm closing this issue for now. |
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Guys, I'm seriously thinking about the project direction after RN 0.24 introduced serious bugs with new navigation api:
ericvicenti/navigation-rfc#69
ericvicenti/navigation-rfc#50
@ericvicenti did great new navigation ("ExperimentalNavigation"), but i believe it was mistake to join it with React Native contribution because now we have to wait RN0.25 or even RN0.26 to fix it instead of quickly get fixes from 'navigation-rfc'...
Any thoughts about it? Maybe maintain own forked separated ExperimentalNavigation to avoid such bugs coming with new React Native version and do regular replacements from new react native once they are really tested? This way RNRF will be much more safe to use, i think...
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