Check continuity on O2 cryogenic tanks before allowing stir

[NoraCodes]

A customer has had a fairly serious problem with stirring the cryogenic tanks with a circuit fault present. To reproduce:

1. Build CSM
2. Perform mission up to translunar coast
3. During translunar coast, attempt to stir cryo tanks

If a wiring fault exists, the issue may be replicated. Be aware that this may be hazardous to the tester attempting it.

[electron0zero]

i think this issue should be closed because we can't reproduce it

[lbotinelly]

Does it happens only with translunar coast (sol-3-a), or any moon coasting? It may be a problem with the moon. Just trying to narrow down the issue.

[pjanaya]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[atpage]

This is fixed in Apollo 14.

[adampats]

This is a hardware problem. I suggest a wontfix and close.

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_13a_Summary.htm

In other words: "What was that gauge reading before you hit the switch?"

[NoraCodes]

@adampats Hey, don't tell me how to fly the CM, all right? They brought me in here to do a job, they asked me to stir the tanks, and I stirred the tanks!

[leommoore]

As a temporary solution, you could try gently rolling the CM/LAM to agitate the O2. You may need to do it on the X and Y axis to get optimal agitation.

[chrislgarry]

@SilverWingedSeraph could you provide a screen shot of the error I should expect to see during repro?

[AdamFreemer]

Let's work the problem people.

[NoraCodes]

@chrislgarry It looks a little something like this:

[khash]

Which version of Apollo are you running? I suggest upgrading to Apollo 12

[lbotinelly]

Not specifically for this issue, but maybe we should consider trimming down. I'm pretty sure we can automate this, eliminating both meatbags and O2 tanks from the final implementation.

[Wazzaps]

Have you tried migrating your project to jQuery?

[AdamFreemer]

Many bug fixes were addressed in Apollo 18 mission software, until the bugs infected the astronauts.

[predicat]

It works for me

[lparkermg]

So, I think it might be a hardware issue. Have you tried taking the tanks out and putting them back in again? Maybe that will fix it.

[g0ddish]

@atpage Savage

[stkrzysiak]

We're going to need a label for good first bug, agreed?

[lparkermg]

@stkrzysiak It's got to be a hardware tag if what @atpage said is true.

[autoferrit]

@Wazzaps
Have you tried migrating your project to jQuery?

we have tried converting to node. heres a mockup.

http://svtsim.com/moonjs/agc.html

[AstraSerg]

Which exactly Universe do you use when face this bug?

[jerry-bachmann]

Just had this issue happen to me, I took a screenshot.

[JohnTendik]

Did you try uninstalling the drivers then reinstalling them?

[bstiller1]

Looks like there could be an ID10T error, along with some memory leaks.

[ireun]

Well, can I just update the firmware to fix this issue? Or do I have to take my Apollo to local NASA-spacecraft dealer?

Really frustrating!

[AndrewFeeney]

This software has reached end of life and is no longer receiving security updates. NASA strongly recommends that you migrate to a supported version. Unfortunately no such version exists at this time.

[jerry-bachmann]

Ok I'm in a real pickle here, after you experience this issue apparently you can't simply reboot to fix it. Does anyone have a good workaround? Also my CO2 is getting pretty high, please answer quickly this is a production issue for me.

[kiweb]

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

[luislobo]

Well, I run the unit tests and it says 0 errors...

[AnthonyRinaldi]

Did you try SCE to AUX?

[vickz84259]

You forgot to import apollo_11.cms...

[Domminique]

let me check it out

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[dreamyguy]

🚫 USER ERROR 🚫

[ahmadawais]

I just solved the issue. Here's how, have a listen!

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[Pablo-Ivan]

I suggest assigning Stanley Kubrick to fix this issue.

[pantaluna]

Which version of Apollo are you running? I suggest upgrading from Apollo 11 to Apollo 12

@khash We cannot upgrade simply because by our 60's semver rules the V12 contains "breaking" changes.

[humantorch]

This never would have happened when Steve Jobs was alive.

[sdhar86]

And that's why we should use docker, could have reproduced the issue easily.

[cristianmedeiros]

works on my machine

[aniruddhas]

You guys are trying to solve an issue which doesn't exist in future.
The Doctor has already solved it in past future.
In his words:
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff."

So, let's stop being geeky and go back to humour, ehh?

[brossow]

Unless someone can point to the specific user story in the functional design document that proves this is not working as intended, this should be considered a billable change request. Please submit this to the internal review board for discussion at next month's meeting.

[timlindsay]

if we split the tank and stirrer into separate micro-services and implement some sort of ESB, then at least we can deal with faults in isolation. I highly recommend [flavour of the day] hosting service, in my experience they have been A1 and their 24hr support is awesome.

[Silmar]

There is a plugin for jQuery that fixes it. Google4it.

[1337ninja]

And that's why we have not sent anyone to the moon for 47 years! Please use upcoming Android O which comes with blazing vibration support for stirring (android.os.Vibrator.vibrate())

[orcaman]

I think it's time we re-write this node.js code in golang.

[brianmay]

Why hasn't anybody submitted a PR to fix this issue yet?

[j-degreef]

This never would have happened when Steve Jobs was alive.

Who ?

[Stevie-C]

This is just like that time you complained that the autopilot's "hold altitude" function caused a 200 foot per minute descent. No matter how hard I try, I have yet to successfully reproduce this problem on the ground!

[brianmay]

Don't understand why this was tagged "Won't fix" and "Humour". Seems to me you don't appreciate the seriousness of this report.

[theodesp]

@brianmay what do you expect? They are the same people that worked on the Apollo13 and we all know what happened...

[soft9000]

... it worked on my moon ...

[s3ver1na]

... it worked on my moon ...

that's no moon.....

[lbotinelly]

Client decided to upgrade from legacy 60s tech stack alternatives like Soyuz and is now implementing https://github.com/r-spacex/SpaceX-API with at least one success case in production. Gotta say - it's about time.

[gamecoder-nz]

It works on my machine