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# Parsing `net10` | ||
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**Owner** [Immo Landwerth](https://github.com/terrajobst) | ||
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NuGet's framework name parser is fairly old and stems from a world where only | ||
.NET Framework exists. In fact, the early versions of NuGet didn't even support | ||
targeting different versions of .NET Framework. | ||
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In this world, version numbers were represented without periods, for example, | ||
`net20` would be .NET Framework 2.0 while `net35` referred to .NET Framework | ||
3.5. | ||
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And here lies the problem: next year we're shipping .NET 10. It's reasonable for | ||
people to put `net10` in the project file. This will produce some interesting | ||
error messages: | ||
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> **error MSB3645**: .NET Framework v3.5 Service Pack 1 was not found. In order | ||
> to target ".NETFramework,Version=v1.0", .NET Framework v3.5 Service Pack 1 or | ||
> later must be installed. | ||
> | ||
> **error MSB3644**: The reference assemblies for .NETFramework,Version=v1.0 | ||
> were not found. To resolve this, install the Developer Pack (SDK/Targeting | ||
> Pack) for this framework version or retarget your application. You can | ||
> download .NET Framework Developer Packs at | ||
> https://aka.ms/msbuild/developerpacks | ||
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It's not exactly terrible, but many people will find this confusing as it's not | ||
obvious that the fix is to change the framework from `net10` to `net10.0`. | ||
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This document proposes how to address this. | ||
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## Stakeholders and Reviewers | ||
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* NuGet team | ||
* MSBuild/SDK team | ||
* VS project system team | ||
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## Design | ||
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We want to steer people towards a proper version syntax, that is | ||
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```xml | ||
<TargetFramework>netX.Y.Z</TargetFramework> | ||
``` | ||
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Examples include `net9.0`, `net10.0`, `net4.5.1`. This syntax makes it | ||
unambiguous. | ||
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Proposal: | ||
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* Fail the build if the TFM is `net10` or `net11` with an error message | ||
> This framework syntax is unsupported because it's ambiguous. If you mean | ||
> .NET Framework 1.0, use `net1.0`. If you mean .NET 10, use `net10.0`. | ||
* If the TFM is neither `net10` nor `net11`, produce a warning if it doesn't | ||
contain a period: | ||
> This framework syntax is obsolete. You should use periods to separate | ||
> version components. | ||
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The reason to fail the build is because in practice someone trying to target | ||
.NET Framework 1.0 will most likely fail anyway because the either don't have | ||
the .NET Framework 3.5 targeting pack -- or worse -- they do, but the code | ||
doesn't compile because it's meant for modern .NET Core, not a 25 year old .NET | ||
Framework 1.0. By failing early it turns an unintelligible error message into | ||
something actionable. | ||
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The reason to issue the warning is to avoid any ambiguities moving forward. | ||
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> [!NOTE] | ||
> | ||
> Please note that this change only applies to the .NET Core SDK, i.e. SDK-style | ||
> projects. Old school .NET Framework CSPROJ files will be unaffected by this | ||
> change because the representation of the target framework is already a proper | ||
> version string. | ||
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### Usage | ||
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Below is a comparison how much a given TFM syntax is being used on GitHub. As | ||
you can see, for modern TFMs, the syntax with an explicit period is most widely | ||
used. | ||
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| GitHub Usage of a TFM syntax | `netX` | `netXY` | `netX.Y` | | ||
| ----------------------------------------------------- | -----: | ------- | -------: | | ||
| [`net5`] [`net50`] [`net5.0`] | 916 | 181 | 142k | | ||
| [`net6`] [`net60`] [`net6.0`] | 2.3k | 273 | 436k | | ||
| [`net7`] [`net70`] [`net7.0`] | 520 | 104 | 138k | | ||
| [`net8`] [`net80`] [`net8.0`] | 704 | 46 | 381k | | ||
| [`net9`] [`net90`] [`net9.0`] | 9 | 1 | 4.3k | | ||
| [`netstandard2`] [`netstandard20`] [`netstandard2.0`] | 83 | 148 | 132k | | ||
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[`net5`]: https://github.com/search?q=net5%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net6`]: https://github.com/search?q=net6%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net7`]: https://github.com/search?q=net7%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net8`]: https://github.com/search?q=net8%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net9`]: https://github.com/search?q=net9%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
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[`net50`]: https://github.com/search?q=net50%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net60`]: https://github.com/search?q=net60%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net70`]: https://github.com/search?q=net70%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net80`]: https://github.com/search?q=net80%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net90`]: https://github.com/search?q=net90%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
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[`net5.0`]: https://github.com/search?q=net5.0%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net6.0`]: https://github.com/search?q=net6.0%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net7.0`]: https://github.com/search?q=net7.0%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net8.0`]: https://github.com/search?q=net8.0%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net9.0`]: https://github.com/search?q=net9.0%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
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[`netstandard2`]: https://github.com/search?q=netstandard2%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`netstandard20`]: https://github.com/search?q=netstandard20%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`netstandard2.0`]: https://github.com/search?q=netstandard2.0%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
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For .NET Framework, the most dominant TFM syntax is the one without periods, | ||
which is to be expected given that was the encouraged syntax: | ||
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| GitHub Usage of a TFM syntax | `netX` | `netXY` | `netX.Y` | | ||
| ----------------------------- | -----: | ------: | -------: | | ||
| [`net1`] [`net10`] [`net1.0`] | 0 | 75 | 0 | | ||
| [`net11`] [`net1.1`] | | 1 | 0 | | ||
| [`net2`] [`net20`] [`net2.0`] | 1 | 15k | 6 | | ||
| [`net3`] [`net30`] [`net3.0`] | 0 | 0 | 3 | | ||
| [`net35`] [`net3.5`] | | 42k | 16 | | ||
| [`net4`] [`net40`] [`net4.0`] | 0 | 24k | 26 | | ||
| [`net45`] [`net4.5`] | | 13k | 48 | | ||
| [`net451`] [`net4.5.1`] | | 988 | 3 | | ||
| [`net452`] [`net4.5.2`] | | 35k | 107 | | ||
| [`net46`] [`net4.6`] | | 39k | 17 | | ||
| [`net461`] [`net4.6.1`] | | 84k | 43 | | ||
| [`net462`] [`net4.6.2`] | | 82k | 34 | | ||
| [`net47`] [`net4.7`] | | 13k | 25 | | ||
| [`net471`] [`net4.7.1`] | | 19k | 23 | | ||
| [`net472`] [`net4.7.2`] | | 159k | 146 | | ||
| [`net48`] [`net4.8`] | | 134k | 320 | | ||
| [`net481`] [`net4.8.1`] | | 652 | 37 | | ||
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[`net1`]: https://github.com/search?q=net1%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net2`]: https://github.com/search?q=net2%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net3`]: https://github.com/search?q=net3%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4`]: https://github.com/search?q=net3%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
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[`net10`]: https://github.com/search?q=net10%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net11`]: https://github.com/search?q=net11%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net20`]: https://github.com/search?q=net20%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net30`]: https://github.com/search?q=net3%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net35`]: https://github.com/search?q=net35%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net40`]: https://github.com/search?q=net40%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net45`]: https://github.com/search?q=net45%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net451`]: https://github.com/search?q=net451%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net452`]: https://github.com/search?q=net452%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net46`]: https://github.com/search?q=net46%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.6`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.6%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net461`]: https://github.com/search?q=net461%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net462`]: https://github.com/search?q=net462%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net47`]: https://github.com/search?q=net47%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net471`]: https://github.com/search?q=net471%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net472`]: https://github.com/search?q=net472%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net48`]: https://github.com/search?q=net48%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net481`]: https://github.com/search?q=net481%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
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[`net1.0`]: https://github.com/search?q=net1.0%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net1.1`]: https://github.com/search?q=net1.1%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net2.0`]: https://github.com/search?q=net2.0%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net3.0`]: https://github.com/search?q=net3.0%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net3.5`]: https://github.com/search?q=net3.5%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.0`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.0%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.5`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.5%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.5.1`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.5.1%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.5.2`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.5.2%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.6.1`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.6.1%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.6.2`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.6.2%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.7`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.7%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.7.1`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.7.1%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.7.2`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.7.2%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.8`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.8%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
[`net4.8.1`]: https://github.com/search?q=net4.8.1%3C%2FTargetFramework%3E+lang%3Axml&type=code | ||
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## Q & A | ||
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### What about `net10.0` | ||
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That is the preferred syntax and will continue to work. The point of this work | ||
is not to make `net10` work because it's nicer -- it's to promote "framework | ||
names should be specified with a period", but we don't want to make this an | ||
error (because many, many people use `net472` today) but a warning. However, | ||
when using `net10` will most likely fail because the SDK doesn't support | ||
targeting it, which will drown out the warning telling you to use period. | ||
Failing it only for `net10` would be possible but feel odd because we'd prefer | ||
periods for all framework names, not just for `net10.0`. | ||
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### Why don't we make `net10` just work? | ||
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Considering that .NET Framework 1.0 is out of support for a while and Visual | ||
Studio doesn't even support building for anything older than .NET Framework 2.0, | ||
it seems very doable to make `net10` mean .NET 10. | ||
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There are three downsides to this: | ||
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1. It makes a syntax work that we don't want to promote | ||
2. The other (widely used) monikers `net20`, `net452`, `net48`, need to continue | ||
to work and mean what they mean today, which is confusing. | ||
3. It requires changing parsing rules in the NuGet library, which might have | ||
unforeseen ripple effects. |
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Is this q&a still relevant? The answer seems to be referring to the original proposal.