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# Documentation Community Team Meeting (December 2024) | ||
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- **Date:** 2024-12-03 | ||
- **Time:** [20:00 UTC](https://arewemeetingyet.com/UTC/2024-11-05/20:00/Docs20Meeting) | ||
- **This HackMD:** <https://hackmd.io/@encukou/pydocswg1> | ||
- [**Discourse thread**](https://discuss.python.org/t/documentation-community-meeting-tuesday-3rd-december-2024/72547/1) | ||
(for December) | ||
- [**Meeting reports**](https://docs-community.readthedocs.io/en/latest/monthly-meeting/) | ||
(the latest one might be an | ||
[**unmerged PR**](https://github.com/python/docs-community/pulls)) | ||
- **Calendar event:** (send your e-mail to Mariatta for an invitation) | ||
- **How to participate:** | ||
- We are using [Discord](https://discord.gg/RxKXyPYV?event=1303462925834522666) this | ||
time | ||
- To edit notes, click the “pencil” or “split view” button on the | ||
[HackMD document](https://hackmd.io/@encukou/pydocswg1). You need to log in (e.g. | ||
with a GitHub account). | ||
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By participating in this meeting, you are agreeing to abide by and uphold the | ||
[PSF Code of Conduct](https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/). Please take a second | ||
to read through it! | ||
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## Roll call | ||
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(Name / `@GitHubUsername` _[/ Discord, if different]_) | ||
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- Petr Viktorin / `@encukou` | ||
- Daniele | ||
- Erlend / `@erlend-aasland` | ||
- Trey | ||
- Bartosz/bswck | ||
- Hugo van Kemenade / `@hugovk` | ||
- Ned / `@nedbat` | ||
- Stan | ||
- Ryan Duve / `ryan-duve` | ||
- Blaise Pabon / `controlpl4n3` | ||
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## Discussion | ||
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- [Erlend]: Undocumented `calendar` APIs; what to do? (recently brought up by Pieter | ||
Eendebak.) | ||
[According to Serhiy](https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/108192#discussion_r1299892823), | ||
several APIs are deliberately undocumented: | ||
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> But first than documenting these particular method or two, we should decide whether | ||
> they should be documented at all. | ||
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> See past issues with the `calendar` module. There may be requests for undocumented | ||
> methods, and some of them may even be rejected already. I think this has already | ||
> been discussed. | ||
I could not find previous discussions nor issues regarding this. IMO, we should either | ||
document public API, or at least add an explanatory comment in the source code that | ||
some APIs are deliberately undocumented. See also: | ||
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- [gh-126164](https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/126164) | ||
- [gh-108202](https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/108202) | ||
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Discussion: | ||
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- [Petr] backwards compat ([PEP 387](https://peps.python.org/pep-0387/)) says things | ||
without underscore are supported, even if not documented | ||
- [Petr] a possibility is also to deprecate the APIs, or document them as deprecated | ||
- [Erlend] list from Adam of undocumented APIs: | ||
[python/cpython#108202 (comment)](https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/108202#issuecomment-1686798068) | ||
- there was a short discussion that it was not immediately obvious if these APIs were | ||
meant to be public or not | ||
- [Erlend] will try to dig up previous discussions; maybe there are some in the | ||
python-dev archive; will post a summary on the | ||
[gh-108202](https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/108202) issue in a few days | ||
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- [Carol] [from Nov] API navigation or tables on long pages: | ||
<https://discuss.python.org/t/summary-tables-as-an-api-overview/68474> | ||
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- [python/cpython#125810](https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/125810) -> | ||
[docs.python.org/3/library/math.html](https://docs.python.org/3/library/math.html) | ||
[merged!] | ||
- [python/cpython#126342](https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/126342) -> | ||
[cpython-previews--126342.org.readthedocs.build/en/126342/library/pathlib.html#summary](https://cpython-previews--126342.org.readthedocs.build/en/126342/library/pathlib.html#summary) | ||
- Petr to figure out the Sphinx side of how to solve this, then ping Trey to polish | ||
the CSS | ||
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- Translation dashboard | ||
- [m-aciek.github.io/pydocs-translation-dashboard](https://m-aciek.github.io/pydocs-translation-dashboard/) | ||
- [m-aciek/pydocs-translation-dashboard](https://github.com/m-aciek/pydocs-translation-dashboard) | ||
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## Next meeting | ||
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The docs team generally meets on the first Tuesday of every month around 20:00-ish UTC. | ||
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We have a recurring Google Calendar event for the meeting. Let Mariatta know your email | ||
address and she can invite you. |
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